Curse

Solar_Takfar · Sep 20, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

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Originally Posted by prism2525

I meant you use oath shot to recharge the signet. duh.

ah. in that case, I don't see it as very important. you'd need 7 expertise AND spend the energy AND hit a bow attack just to be able to cast some spell you're not skilled with (which would have to be a non-illusion mesmer spell OR some random spell you stole) twice in a 25-sec frame... and you still run the risk of missing the shot and getting screwed over. Sure, you might be able to make a nice build centered on it, but still doesn't sound like a game-breaking combo to me.

Alfrond · Sep 20, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

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Originally Posted by Red1086

Haha, I appreciate everyone getting pissed at my opinion and thoughts. I wasn't saying people had to play with other people, I was just saying I am missing the point of buying an MMO then. So, am I really a hypocrite? No, do it anyway, it was just an opinion. Sheesh, don't get your hear broken over a lame MMO(again my opinion, not fact... silly GW fan boys/elitests).

Eh, whatever, if you deciede you don't like me cause I voiced an opinion, I guess you should move to some primative country so you can shoot people for it.

Again, I wasn't saying you have to play with real people, just isn't that why MMO's were made? It just seems like a step backwards IN MY OPINION!(not elitest bullshit that people have been saying about me.)

I think what people are trying to say is that many players welcome the addition of customizable heroes. These players become kinda annoyed when someone else makes them feel that they will be playing the game incorrectly. Guild Wars will still be a cooperative game and certainly a full team of intelligent real players will still be superior than heroes. Even players who love playing with others should appreciate the fact that they will now have another choice besides henchman if they need to fill in an extra slot or two.

LadyNilene · Sep 20, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

The only thing that came to mind was HURRAY there is gonna be new skills AND armor for Rits and Sins.

Other then that, nothing really new from what we already heard...

ohhh, the new dances were a tad bit disappointing also...yeah...

prism2525 · Sep 20, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

arcane mimicry? isn't that the elite of target OTHER ally? There must be 2 mesmers with it for it to work.

Not saying this is impossible, far from it.

beanerman_99 · Sep 20, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Is the Paragon dance the dance from Michael Jackson's "Bad" video?

Does anyone but me think they show us TOO MUCH in advance? I mean, will there be any suprises left for us to find on our own when we start playing Nightfall?

Mordakai · Sep 20, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by prism2525

arcane mimicry? isn't that the elite of target OTHER ally? There must be 2 mesmers with it for it to work.

Not saying this is impossible, far from it.

yes, it becomes the Elite of target other ally.

I've never actually used it, but why would Other ally be limited to another Mesmer?

I was just thinking of ways to use Sig. of Illusion with another Elite, if Sig itself is an Elite, and this immediately sprung to mind.

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Originally Posted by beanerman_99

Does anyone but me think they show us TOO MUCH in advance? I mean, will there be any suprises left for us to find on our own when we start playing Nightfall?

What, a few skills with little info, a few armors, and two dances is too much?

There will be plenty enough to discover, assuming the PvE preview doesn't reveal too much...

(if you're really worried about spoiling Nightfall, I would stop reading threads about Nightfall, and don't do the preview. This weekend you will see a lot more information posted here. New skills in all their detail, most new armors (including 15k), new pets, all the dances, etc., etc.)

prism2525 · Sep 20, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

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Originally Posted by Solar_Takfar

ah. in that case, I don't see it as very important. you'd need 7 expertise AND spend the energy AND hit a bow attack just to be able to cast some spell you're not skilled with (which would have to be a non-illusion mesmer spell OR some random spell you stole) twice in a 25-sec frame... and you still run the risk of missing the shot and getting screwed over. Sure, you might be able to make a nice build centered on it, but still doesn't sound like a game-breaking combo to me.

oops i forgot it's expertise

. It could be a gamble but i don't see ppl using it that way much.

Still with Mantra of Inscriptions it would kick ass.

Horseman Of War · Sep 20, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

anyone else having a hard time getting that funky bassline from 'beat it' out of their heads?

Omega X · Sep 20, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Red1086

Haha, I appreciate everyone getting pissed at my opinion and thoughts. I wasn't saying people had to play with other people, I was just saying I am missing the point of buying an MMO then. So, am I really a hypocrite? No, do it anyway, it was just an opinion. Sheesh, don't get your hear broken over a lame MMO(again my opinion, not fact... silly GW fan boys/elitests).

Eh, whatever, if you deciede you don't like me cause I voiced an opinion, I guess you should move to some primative country so you can shoot people for it.

Again, I wasn't saying you have to play with real people, just isn't that why MMO's were made? It just seems like a step backwards IN MY OPINION!(not elitest bullshit that people have been saying about me.)

Then why are you still here?

I mean, if its lame then it shouldn't be worth your time.

And if you actually played the game as much as most of the people here, you should realize that henchies have always been here and the Heroes option only gives you the ability to have personal henchmen.

This doesn't change gameplay or YOUR choice to group with humans. No one DENIED you that right. No one is denying ANYONE that right.

In OTHER MMOs, there is no such henchman option and you have to foot it on your own in situations when no one is there. ALSO since Guild Wars is a team game you really need others to progress whether they are real ppl or not.

You are really blowing things out of proportion just because someone reacted to your thoughts on the issue. They have a right to their opinion just as much as you have a right to yours.

Solar_Takfar · Sep 20, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14

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Originally Posted by Mordakai

What, a few skills with little info, a few armors, and two dances is too much?

There will be plenty enough to discover, assuming the PvE preview doesn't reveal too much...

I was thinking something like that myself. Sure, the exact nature of armor, enemies, skills, the campaign, etc, will still be surprises until the game is out, but I'm wondering whether there will be any larger new feature still being kept under wraps; ie.: will there be a new storage option? will there be any new interface updates (other than the skill/attribute window)? that kind of thing. I do hope they're still keeping something new and cool for release day, but either way, there's just so much good stuff coming up that I'm satisfied already.

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anyone else having a hard time getting that funky bassline from 'beat it' out of their heads?

yea, being a bass player myself, I've always liked that groove, and it popped right back to my mind when I saw that dance.

Trvth Jvstice · Sep 21, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45

I'm pretty sure the Male dervishe's dance is from the Michael Jackson Egyptian video that included Eddy Murphy.

I can't Wait to build up my new customizable henchie. I wonder if we'll be able to rename them. If so, mine will be called Agent Sculley, or maybe Squiggy. lol

Knightsaber Sith · Sep 21, 2006, 12:47 AM // 00:47

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Originally Posted by Trvth Jvstice

I'm pretty sure the Male dervishe's dance is from the Michael Jackson Egyptian video that included Eddy Murphy.

It's already confirmed as being from "beat-it". You can watch it on youtube if you want. And it's the male Paragon.

Diablo™ · Sep 21, 2006, 05:45 AM // 05:45

This is fooking suh-weet!

Lucid_Azure · Sep 21, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

Interesting how the hood that Dervish is wearing covers his face and it has little eye holes to see out of....

OMG! they even have videos of the female dervish and male paragon dance up >_<

doesn't anyone look at the site anymore?

Knightsaber Sith · Sep 21, 2006, 06:02 AM // 06:02

What? I posted that like right after they added it to the site.

Lucid_Azure · Sep 21, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

lol man, I was just joking around

omgeeeee! Must get back to my post!

Gururian · Sep 21, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

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Originally Posted by Omega X

Then why are you still here?

I mean, if its lame then it shouldn't be worth your time.

And if you actually played the game as much as most of the people here, you should realize that henchies have always been here and the Heroes option only gives you the ability to have personal henchmen.

This doesn't change gameplay or YOUR choice to group with humans. No one DENIED you that right. No one is denying ANYONE that right.

In OTHER MMOs, there is no such henchman option and you have to foot it on your own in situations when no one is there. ALSO since Guild Wars is a team game you really need others to progress whether they are real ppl or not.

You are really blowing things out of proportion just because someone reacted to your thoughts on the issue. They have a right to their opinion just as much as you have a right to yours.

Agreed. Well said.

Jadzaea · Sep 21, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

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Originally Posted by Kha

I really hope the male dervish dance isn't like the female one, cause that was boring >.<

It does look boring, but if you think about it, it fits what the Dervish is.

And I think the Paragon dance comes from Beat it. But I'm not up on my Michael Jackson videos.

I'm so excited about this campaign! This whole customizable heroes thing makes me even more excited. And I logged on last night to get my Minion Bomber farther and heard the new Nightfall music. I'm so in love with this one. It's going to take dynamite to blast me out of my computer chair after this one comes out.

Lady Lozza · Sep 21, 2006, 01:50 PM // 13:50

<3 mes armour!
<3 dervish dance!

TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 21, 2006, 02:00 PM // 14:00

KOFF ... MR T I Aint Gettin On No Plane Foool